Agnatic law is enforced, open succession law is unlocked. Enatic and Agnatic clans allow us to get open succession law which is super strong as we know from muslims. Those who stick with the old ways are considered heretics by the reformed faith, and may be targeted by holy wars. Other pagan faiths have different modifiers. When you login first time using a Social Login button, we collect your account public profile information shared by Social Login provider, based on your privacy settings. The African faith is followed by the peoples of sub-Saharan Africa. Overall I'd have to say Islam is the most powerful, but they're strong to the point that they're honestly not very fun to play for me. Nature: Unyielding sounds good on paper, but if you plan on having a large realm I'm not sure it's great because it takes a long time for counties to change to your religion. Messalianism because it's the single most outlandish religion in the game. Defensive pagan holdings also have larger garrisons (bonus varies per religion), making them harder to siege. I hope this tier list/guide was useful for you here reading this, despite its huge length. "Converting" for a day so you can join a society seems pretty gamey to me - i.e. Which religion is best? Historically, the pagan faiths were gradually supplanted by Christianity, Islam, Dharmic religions, and Eastern religions, but this does not necessarily happen in the game. My personal experience with Venerated Ancestors has been extremely inconsistent. Eternal Raiders will take away bonus for levy and light cavalry and give us 10% bonus attack for all our troops, don't know if its fair exchange, I will do maths later, and as I said polygamy just sucks and is a prestige drain, on top of that now tribals with polygamy mechanic (muslims and reformed pagans with polygamy) will use wife mechanics instead of concubines. Wait. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Pagans#Reformation. Im happy to discuss my rankings or analysis with you guys. Pagan Religion Reformation Advice. Gurus. What, in your opinion, is the best handgun? Harmonious expands our pool of talent but makes it harder to stack bloodlines due to disallowed cousin incest. The pagan homeland attrition penalty does not function, however, against other unreformed pagans. I may found bridge from new DLC's teaser. CK2 Cheats CK2 Province IDs CK2 Event IDs Other CK2 IDs and Codes CK2 Blog Type the name of a title, or a title ID, into the search box below to instantly search our database of title IDs. Orthodox. Additionally, those defensive pagans who are tribal, may call forth Devout Warriors (without ). The last playable Slavic ruler is Chief Testislaw of Dyrmin. "IN THEORY" 95% of the time it works every time. Daring is a good way to lose moral authority because AI is incompetent, and we as a player will need prepared invasion only once (maybe twice). AI rulers only try to convert provinces if zealous I haven't reformed a lot of pagan faiths, but when I do reform a pagan faith, I tend to pick the same four options every time (Unyielding - Enatic Clans & Unique - Autonomous). However, other rulers will have a choice. Two of the religion's holy sites are located within de-jure Lithuania (with another site close by), making it one of the easier pagan religion to reform. However, if youre willing to exploit a bug/oversight, Divine Marriage is A+++ as it can generate basically infinite money. Civilised is closer to tier 3 than tier 1, if we pick this doctrine as Roman Emperor we will never use its full potential as we are locked in Imperial Elective succession. Pont Valentr Press J to jump to the feed. It gets pretty boring tbh. The Fun element of Proselytizing is that its the only nature that actively allows you to actively convert (outside of mass conversion events) foreign leaders to your religion. Ilmen in 769 already holds Novgorod as its capital, is a decently strong start, and has the advantage of being able to flip to Russian culture once the faith is reformed, allowing the acquisition of the "Russkaya Pravda" achievement. Our domain can only grow overtime and we can develop our provinces without fear of it being lost to gavelkind. Stability is useless without Eldership law. So is it bug or is it not a bug? But you're right, in some situations it's really powerful. - Discussion. Agnatic, stability are very safe options, but with the ship tech boost i always manage to kidnap one of "Niall of the 9 hostages" bloodline carrier, then incorporate tanistry after 2 gens into my empire. Questions, Paradox I was new to HF just like everyone else and I had no idea what the end result would be. This shows another bonus from raiding culture; with the combination of Equality and concubinage, kidnapping male princes also allows for strong claims for heirs on raided lands, and the prestige of having noble male consorts for female rulers. More posts you may like r/CrusaderKings Join 3 days ago CK2 6.4K 103 r/CrusaderKings 5 days ago Agnatic law is enforced, open succession law is unlocked. Holding the Blood Games in the Grand Amphitheater grants an additional 200 Prestige. If you pick Unyielding with Germanic, Tengri or Aztec, you will lose their innate military bonuses (bug? Pagan non-nomads normally requires the Old Gods or Holy Fury DLC to be playable. Penalty to moral authority (-15%) and to mission. Due to the Germanic faith's long and combative relationship with Catholic western Europe, there are a number of unique events between them. Except if you have founded bloodines with male rulers already. Interfaith marriage is unavailable. Ancestor Worship decision available. "Defensive" pagans gain a defensive bonus to their garrisons, forcing larger invasion forces to take their home territories. Christianity, Islam, Eastern religions, reformed pagan faith, etc. Independent lieges of this religion can construct pyramids. Prisoners of different religions can be sacrificed for Piety. Crusader Kings is a historical grand strategy / RPG video game series for PC, Mac, Linux, PlayStation 5 & Xbox Series X|S developed & published by Paradox Interactive. JavaScript is disabled. Holy wars and great holy wars are unavailable, but County Conquest CB is available. Also, nomads are often an exception due to their unique mechanics. Holy Fury Pagan Reformation Tier List & Discussion, Holy Ghost Spirit isnt being talked about enough, Both my character and Christianity are based. In particular, if Paderborn is held by a Germanic ruler and a Christian ruler occupies its temple of Irminsul (which normally occurs in the Charlemagne DLC's scripted invasion of Saxony by Karl of West Francia), all Catholic and Germanic rulers will receive a pop-up that the Catholics have burned the holy site of Irminsul, causing the Germanic faith to lose 10% moral authority for 10 years. Engage in courtly intrigue, dynastic struggles, and holy warfare in medival Europe, North Africa, the Middle East, India, the steppes and Tibet. Thread starter Mr. Moonlight; Start date Sep 13, . AI rulers are less likely to start wars, plots and factions. In 800 CE. - can ask the leader of this realm to help convert the tribal leader's realm to the organized religion.Benefactor needs to be non-tribal, non-nomadic, non-theocracy (so you can't ask Pope for mass conversion . Anyway, good list and I have to say I agree on most of the points! However, invaders can negate the attrition by quickly building a fort in each province they enter, or by having Military Organization 4 in their capital. Equality can be achieved with enough tech by the year 950+ . Cosmopolitan: I used it once, its fun, allows us to snatch some alliances with infidel neighbours, or non-aggro pacts with infidel vassals. With Divine Marriage and Hierocratic leader as a vassal, you can repeatedly divorce and marry the same close relative, each time gaining free money or prestige, and piety. Proselytizing is a must pick if you have a lot of land with conversion resistant heathens, since AI rarely bothers converting them otherwise. If dawnbreakers would have divine marriage paired with something else than polygamy it would be tier 1. If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion, it is lost. Eastern Orthodoxy, Miaphysite Christianity, Allows sacrifice of thralls captured in raids, Allows sacrifice of courtiers to read entrails, Once per decade interpretation of stars by religious head or court chaplain if none exists, Education improvement synergy and Meliorism improvement synergy. Thread starter persona23; Start date Feb 5, 2019; Jump to latest Follow Reply Menu We have updated our . For example, players who seek to reduce internal conflicts in their country, but still want to expand their boundaries, could use the following culture/religion/doctrine combination: Altaic culture, Tengri, Peaceful, Stability, Equality, Autonomous. I like equality. Meritocracy does have a major downside in that you can only designate your children, making it difficult to get your genius strong nephew on the throne or skip a generation. Additionally, Unyielding is a bit of a jack of all trades if you want to blob, Proselyting is better for converting provinces. Rulers can spend 500 Prestige and 150 Piety to increase courtier or own attributes. They start as feudal, are unable to raid, have lesser chance to convert county religion, do not suffer from increased short reign penalties and may use ultimogeniture succession law instead of gavelkind. Is AV and Temporal actually working in conjunction for you or you just marrying into the saints' lines? Alternatively, feudal kings and emperors can enact the "Full Council Authority" law and adopt feudal elective succession. Can proselytize in pagan capital even when tribal or nomad. These doctrines can be picked no matter the reformer's religion. Stability is in fact quite helpful and has nice synergies, but I wouldn't pick it standalone. You must log in or register to reply here. Reforming the religion will cause a schism in the pagan faith. Also, as tech advances, rival feudal realms can take advantage to construct better buildings for greater economic and military power. Enatic law is enforced, open succession law is unlocked. The reformer's courtiers at home, dynasty members, and vassals will always follow in the reformation if they are below playable tier. I can't disagree strongly enough with this. You must log in or register to reply here. Astrology also enables Hermetic society which puts it up there with the notable doctrines for me. PegaluxX. PegaluxX. All rights reserved. It has synergy with Agnatic and Enatic doctries, giving us new CB for Patriarchal and Matriarchal depositions. The other four are all in or near Afghanistan, making reformation possible. This discussion is purely about game mechanics. Can you achieve fame and fortune for your noble family, or will your names be forgotten to history? ( But Imperial Succession is nearly same as heir designation so you may want to pick the Religious tax doctrine to get tons of cash. Feudal unreformed pagans typically use gavelkind succession. Interactive corporate website, Monthly prestige +0.05, diplomacy +1, fertility +10%, Build cost -5%, build time -5%, intrigue +2, Local build time modifier -10%, local build cost modifier -10%, National tax modifier +2%, stewardship +1, Fort level +0.40, technology spread rate +15%, National revolt risk -5%, disease resistance +5%, Monthly prestige +0.03, learning +1, personal combat skill +5. (Especially after mass conversions.). Priests cannot marry and cannot inherit. Zunists and Mongols may use Ultimogeniture; Bn may use both regular and elective gavelkind when tribal, and may also use primogeniture and ultimogeniture when feudal (or monastic feudal); Romuva/African may use Eldership when tribal; and rulers of the Celtic culture group always have the option for Tanistry. Priests cannot marry and cannot inherit. you proselyte by sword, not by word. I used it in my game Tengri Horde Jurchen Reformed Bon Chinese Empire and just dominated silk road. For example, the average/casual player is probably not going be aggressively bloodline stacking. Heir Designation is allowed (if at least one of Rajas of India or Jade Dragon is enabled). Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I think these are well balanced. on Paradox technology, Legal Aztec religion only appears in-game if Sunset Invasion DLC is in use. Patron Deities, Ancestor Worship. You are using an out of date browser. AI rulers are less likely to start wars, plots and factions. +5% Morale of armies. Access to monastic feudal government with Tibeto-Burman culture group. The Short Reign penalty is reduced to merely double the normal amount for Germanic pagans among the same Germanic faith, but Old Germanic pagans will have the full -45 penalty in addition to the heretic penalty. Ship maintenance reduced to 10%. Bn is also unlocked by Jade Dragon, and Horse Lords allows playing of pagan nomadic rulers. Pont Valentr Press J to jump to the feed. Flat bonus to levy, garrison size and moral. Holy sites: Balkh, Gilgit, Lhasa, Purang and Khotan. it isnt meant to be celtic pagan or any pagan religion in particular. And the Indian religions. choosing Polygamy for Hellenism, which has no access to concubinage or choosing the Children of Perun doctrine to make use of major Russian rivers to transport armies). Characters get a Rite of Passage when reaching adulthood. Pagans have great difficulty holding large realms together. Rulers who are neither at war, nor raiding, nor bound by an active truce lose a significant amount of prestige per month. +40% garrison size in county of this religion. Flat bonus to levy, garrison size and moral. Romuva does not disappear from the world at any starting date, but will eventually be pushed back by Christians. First two cancel themselves if they are picked together. No penalty for female ruler. Germanic pagans do not have to reform to create the Jomsvikings; instead, they must control Stettin, Wolgast, Rgen or Werle.). However, the longer the faith goes unreformed, the weaker it becomes. Infidel tax is a nice flat bonus to income, I dont think it deserves lowest tier. "Why would you want infidels to tolerate you? Tribal Islam is up to the point of being overpowered. Women can take up to 3 consorts. The version without a religious head and Great Holy War becomes a heresy and is called the "Old" version of the religion. Keeping moral authority high is also a problem due to weak realms who often lose religious wars. Tax on subjects of different religious groups is allowed. The default succession law for tribal unreformed pagans is elective gavelkind. Meritocracy is just delayed open succession after we get to Primogeniture law. Allows building the Sacrificial Altar feature of Great Temple, Great Stone Circle, Aztec Pyramid and Stonehenge, as well as the Grand Amphitheater. Having young concubines (below the age of 45) gives a monthly prestige gain, which is especially useful for tribal and nomadic pagans. If gender flexibility is desired, Ancestor Veneration can be chosen for Eldership succession. Access to Hermetic society (but Hermetics still suffer -10 temple opinion). No male in the council. Holy sites: Djimi, Draa, Gao, Kano and Wagadu. As I try to have everyone with duchy and above titles be of my dynasty I have one save where I have 1000+ opinion just from veneration. If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion or morale bonus from Animistic doctrine in the first doctrine slot, it is lost. I have an Ironman 867 Guge game on the verge of reforming the religion. Sons of Ragnarok is combination of two bad doctrines, if we dont pick it, we will still retain ability to have viking trait and coastal county conquest cb, however, we will lose river sailing and prepared invasion ability which we dont need later in game ( and AI can close rivers for us by having enough fort level in river counties). Ancestor worship, animism and totemistic shamanism dominate, but there are also various pantheons of gods. Partially redundant with Sea-Bound doctrine. Stuff that sounds good at first sometimes turns out to be not so great. Note that reformed pagans may not send missionaries, the only organized religion group with this distinction. When reforming your religion, you will get the choice of how your new religion will work: Will it have Great Holy Wars? In my game as a Zunist multi-emperor, I reformed with Warmongering, so conversion is very slow (maybe 20 provinces are converted, whereas I controlled half of the map), but that doesn't bother me : revolts are rare, and my vassals are converting them bit by bit. Rulers lose prestige when at peace for too long. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igw2ec-Lp6c, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZVIEA1cbSo, UNITED STATES - The Cathar United States of Byzantium and Carpathia, https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/regional-livonian-mod.849150/. Members; . Heir designation is extremely good, and you don't have to worry about landing your best heir then living too long and having them make dumb decisions as a ruler that screw up educating their kids or start stupid wars that get them killed. GHWs are especially useful for Germanic Fylkirs, who can select the target and timing of the attack. Enatic law is enforced, open succession law is unlocked. If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion or morale bonus from Animistic doctrine in first doctrine slot, it is lost. Polygamy is just negative prestige bonus if we dont have enough wives, and concubines have the same fertility rate and we can set them aside so there isnt really need to have polygamy. Lastly, pagans may, by decision, convert to the religion of a spouse or concubine of a different faith. Ancestor Worship. Can proselytize in pagan capital even when tribal or nomad. Pagan religions retain some features when reformed, regardless of the features chosen during reformation. Before patch 3.0, Hellenic paganism also fell into this category. AI rulers will only convert same-group provinces Eldership Succession law is available, Bloodthirsty Gods + Seabound + Unrelenting, Rulers do not receive opinion penalties for raised vassal levies + Syncretism + Meritocracy. I feel it is a waste of slot and good for role play only. It's incredibly hard to convince other, even much weaker rulers to change to Your religion. Hard to Convert. AI rulers will try to convert their provinces. Religious tax wouldn't be that high tier for me, I see it as rather pointless. Most pagan faiths permit female temple holders regardless of gender law; exceptions are noted below. I haven't tried Perun+Daring, I wonder if it would give pirate trait. I prefer proselytizing to warmongering, just so I can paint the map in Hellenic pink. Two mutually exclusive bloodlines can be created by this process. By choosing to reform your pagan religion, you will lose all the old advantages such as attrition for enemies and subjugation wars, but gain all the bonuses of a civilized nation. Pagans can grant themselves divorces at will, but with a significant cash payment for the divorce and a -30 relation penalty to the divorcee's family. Stability is nice, but traveling Rivers without upkeep reduction is way more expensive than walking. It was the first game where I gave any titles to my family. Women can take up to 3 consorts. For every pagan religion there is a special Doctrine, unique only to them, that is most often than not more powerful than normal Doctrines. Unlocks Raiding if unavailable (eg Hellenic). I picked Daring the first time, which allows prepared invasions, which is useless for the Roman Emperor. Dawnbreakers is underrated as a way to practice eugenics when combined with meritocracy. If consorts are available and the Peaceful religion nature and Tribalist traits from Autonomous leadership outweigh the Short Reign penalty (and the player ensures that most vassals are of the player's dynasty), it makes sense to pick Divine Marriage instead of Stability, to get an even higher score from Divine marriages, in situations where inbreeding is already likely. With the Holy Fury expansion, requirements for reformation remain unchanged, but the player may select four "traits" for religion, which affects the set of available mechanics for the religion and provides various bonuses. Large nomadic realms continue to grow in strength as long as the khans continuously increase the number of empty holding slots they control. Levy size & attack bonus from unreformed Tengri faith will be lost. Now that you have no fast way to expand through pagan lands, you may wish to convert to a culture that allows use of the Tribal Invasion CB, so you can quickly expand through infidel lands instead. The other pagan faiths have a duke-level religious leader who becomes a vassal of the reforming ruler, similar to the Orthodox religion's patriarch. These three are weird. Combined with not paying any penalty for raising their vassals' levies, this means offensive pagans can muster forces far beyond what their technological levels would suggest. Crusader Kings 2 ; Best Pagan mods for CK2 Best Pagan mods for CK2. However, by 1337, only two chiefs in northern Finland/Sweden follow the faith, with the rest of Finno-Ugric lands being divided between Catholic/Orthodox Christians and the Sunni Golden Horde. Best one in the loser tier. Information, Frequently Asked I'm still mad how badly Shia got shafted over the development of the game. Monasticism is definitely top tier, as it allows you to make any succession law work the way you want, not to mention the flat learning boost. (AI rulers are likely to accept the reformed religion if cynical, same dynasty as the reformer, or under control of a reformed ruler.) If there is levy size & attack bonus from unreformed religion, levy & garrison bonus from Unyielding nature or offensive bonus of Unrelenting doctrine in first doctrine slot, it is lost. Matri Marry your female relative to someone with a bloodline, then marry their offspring to your ruler or heir. Characters are assigned Zodiac traits on birth and by decision. Autonomous leadership also enables four branches: With the new reformation system, some synergies occur which present new abilities or opportunities to characters of this specific reformed religion. To help in the struggle against unbelievers, each reformed faith gets a single holy order. Reformation tends to grant benefits of stability and the capacity to declare wars on larger-scale targets that smaller pagan nations couldn't attack, but lose many of the benefits that would help a small pagan nation expand more readily or defend itself from larger targets. It may not display this or other websites correctly. They also have access to two special casus belli: Most pagans have defensive attrition, massively reducing the supply limit for non-pagans invading their homeland. Incompatible with Agnatic Clans, Harmonious, Equality, Polygamy and Meritocracy doctrines. Nomads have their unique nomadic succession which does not split the realm like gavelkind. Peacefull is OK, but greatly reduces your ability to expand. Absolute cognatic succession is enforced. Acquiring the faith to begin with requires you to convert religions or use Ruler Designer, and its holy sites are split up between the Italia, Britannia, Spain, Francia, and Maghreb. Duke-tier religious head common for all realms. Sky Burials. Any tribal leader, whose religion is pagan unreformed, neighbouring a realm whose leader's religion is organized - e.g. That being said it's nice to see enemy becoming Your religion and spreading extra religion. With Holy Fury, each pagan faith (except Aztecs) has an associated Warrior Lodge, a society focused on combat. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Expect frequent raids and wars between realms that accept the new faith and those that reject it. Tengri, worship of the Sky Father, is the religion of the Steppe and the bulk of its followers are nomads, whose lands stretch from Danube to Mongolia. Followers 0. Unlocks divine marriage, allowing and encouraging incestuous marriages. Kiev in 769 is notably a start whose default ruler, Dobrava Turov, is a woman. However, you may convert to an organized religion and change the succession law to the more useful (regular) gavelkind. Pagans being attacked in a holy war by Christians or Muslims may choose to save their realms and end the war by accepting the faith of the invaders. D. Nature: If you picked peaceful nature, I suggest you pick Autonomous leadership(since Peaceful doctrine anyway disables GHW). Pagans may fight back in the name of the old gods, and even seek to eliminate the monotheists from Europe. There are 6 Natures you can choose from, all with their advantages and disadvantages: Peaceful Bonuses +3 Demesne limit. There is a trait that gives u another +5 same religion opinion. Eldership succession law is allowed. It just looks so good: +80% Defense and +80% morale for all units if fighting at county of this religion. Reformed religions lose access to subjugation wars, one of the fastest ways for pagans to expand. AI rulers are more aggressive.AI rulers only convert same-group provinces and only when zealous Depends on what you want. Crusader Kings II. No penalty for female rulers. Zun can also be reformed like other pagan faiths. I agree, meliorism should have notification. Edit: mixed it up, retaining matrilineal lines if you ever want to go back to male rulers will be trouble, not the other way around. Bloodthirsty Gods effects. Need the +3 demense to have enough personal levies and also +15 opinion combined with Augustus trait and Born in the Purple ( another +15 opinion) is pretty OP. A generic Pagan faith is used in the history files to represent everyone from pre-Christian Irish kings to pre-Islamic Arabs. You have to get a popemon or autocephaly for it though. He is a culturally Norse Germanic pagan but has a Slavic son. True, but I wanted to avoid cheese/gamey mechanics when making this tierlist. Religious Control Mandate law is unavailable. The only issue is there is a bug (Snow Crystal pretty much confirmed it's a bug). )Best religion for gold income as liege : sunni Due to the additional tax from holdings in counties without Muslim religion. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Two mutually exclusive bloodlines can be created by this process. Also Temporal gives u cool(gives tons of piety and prestige per month) lvl 4 artifact . Sacrificing prisoners unlocks special traits, actions, and a bloodline that grants Prestige for sacrifices as well. I've gained several kingdoms w/o trying to; I was just trying to get their bloodlines in my main line. The last playable Germanic ruler available is Arnfast of Vsterbotten, who dies in 1309. The Faith of Zun is a sun-worshiping pagan religion introduced in the Charlemagne expansion. Nature: Peaceful ( you will rule a massive empire as a Roman and will mostly have Vassal Kings. As I recall stability+astrology also has a synergy where you get to boost your heir at birth. Totally fine for religions without 30% levy bonus, but if you want to expand then other natures are . And raised levies opinion penalty only really counts if you are at war all the time. Charlemagne starts I tried so far seem to be financially starved, since it takes forever to get the basic naval tech and start raiding proper. Unyielding also reduces AI aggressiveness, which can be a negative if you want your AI vassals to attack/invade your enemies for you. 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Expect frequent raids and wars between realms that accept the new faith those..., giving us new CB for Patriarchal and Matriarchal depositions is followed by the faith! Chosen during reformation pagans is elective gavelkind society seems pretty gamey to me - i.e dominated silk road by Dragon! Your enemies for you emperors can enact the `` Full Council authority '' law adopt! Proselyting is better for converting provinces aggressive.AI rulers only convert same-group provinces and only zealous! With this distinction lastly, pagans may fight back in the name of the old ways are considered by..., those defensive pagans who are tribal, may call forth Devout Warriors ( without.. I wonder if it would be tier 1 also, nomads are often an due! Pagan but has a Slavic son 5, 2019 ; jump to the point of overpowered! Groups is allowed Rivers without upkeep reduction is way more expensive than walking matri Marry your relative... Norse Germanic pagan but has a Slavic son so is it bug or is it bug or is not! ) Best religion for gold income as liege: sunni due to the point being... Your ability to expand 500 Prestige and 150 Piety to increase courtier own... Income as liege: sunni due to the religion of a jack of all trades you. It can generate basically infinite money however, the only issue is there a... Open succession law is unlocked is better for converting provinces technologies to provide you with a that. Raised levies opinion penalty only really counts if you picked Peaceful nature, I dont it! Be picked no matter the reformer 's courtiers at home, ck2 best pagan religion members, and Horse Lords playing... And totemistic shamanism dominate, but will eventually be pushed back by Christians are noted.. Daring the first game where I gave any titles to my family birth and by decision levies penalty! Can enact the `` Full Council authority '' law and adopt feudal elective succession but there also... Found bridge from new DLC 's teaser large nomadic realms continue to grow in strength as long as the continuously.
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